* to muslim "intellectuals" (what an oxymoron): Klevius isn't a Christian or a Jew, nor does he belong to any political party/ideology. Apart from an extraordinary brain (which sometimes feels like a "mental impairment" in communication with less talented but presumptuous people - judge for yourself) Klevius is "extremely normal" while trying to make space for whatever is "abnormal" as long as it fits under the (negative) Human Rights! Islam certainly doesn't fit - ask the man on the pic below. He's the leader of all the world's muslim Ummah, OIC, which has officially, via UN, violated Human Rights by replacing them with Sharia!
Why criticizing islam?
Pamela Geller: I was dressing for the gym when my phone rang. “Turn on the TV.” And so I did. I watched in horror as the second plane hit. Freedom was not free. The infrastructure of my thinking, the basic premise of my very existence, lavish freedom, disintegrated with the Islamic attack on America, ten years ago today. I always assumed my freedom. It was the air I breathed. I never questioned its permanence. “It’s a free country” was my mantra as a child. And it was. I could do anything, be anything, say anything. Everything was possible. That forever changed. The American idea and all that that meant was under mortal threat from a brutal and oppressive ideology that hated everything we stood for and held dear — life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. America, America, worth fighting for, worth dying for. I felt guilty that I didn’t know who had attacked my country. And when I found out, I felt guilty that I didn’t know why they attacked my country, my identity, my family. I spent the ensuing years studying Islam, Ibn Warraq, Bat Ye’or, Robert Spencer, etc. The media was absent on jihad and increasingly I found myself on the net ……… the rest is history. Wolff
Bachner: Despite the massive amount of documented evidence to back up what you say, you have certainly become one of the most vilified, and lied about, public figures on the American political scene. How do you deal with the threats against your safety, and the constant, often distasteful insults? How do you manage to continue on day after day, in what is a very difficult struggle, against a formidable and implacable opponent?
Pamela Geller: I know that I am telling the truth. I fight for a vision of a beautiful society. I fight for art, for music, and for love — all the things that make life beautiful and that authoritarian systems deny. I fight for individual rights. I know that is right. And that sustains me.
Wolff Bachner: Granted that many Americans are just not interested in taking the time to become educated about the world of politics and religion, but one would think that after 9/11, more Americans would want to learn all they could about Islam, and the ideology that led to the destruction of the World Trade Center. Why do you think so many Americans are turning a blind eye to the truth about Islam? Why are they so resistant to your message, and so quick to call you an Islamophobe?
Pamela Geller: They turn a blind eye because the media tells them to. They’ve been constantly lied to for eleven years now — that Islam is a Religion of Peace and that anyone who says otherwise is a racistislamophobicantimuslimbigot. They’re constantly admonished that “Islamophobia” is a big problem, when actually Jews are victims of hate crimes eight times more often than Muslims are. Of course they turn a blind eye.
Wolff Bachner: You have been quoted as saying, “I have no problem with Islam. I have a problem with political Islam?” In view of all the recent violence, and the resurgence of calls for the establishment of the caliphate, do you still stand behind the statement?
Pamela Geller: What I meant was that I don’t mind if people want to pray to Allah five times a day and read the Qur’an, as long as they leave the political and supremacist aspects of Islam out of this country. I don’t care if you worship a stone, just don’t stone me with it.
Wolff Bachner: How do respond to those who say that you shouldn’t criticize the Qur’an for it’s violence, because similar violence is also found in the Old Testament and New Testament?
Pamela Geller: There is actually not similar violence in the Old or New Testaments. Only the Qur’an contains calls for all believers to make war upon and subjugate all unbelievers. And all the sects and schools of Islamic law teach that. There are Islamic jihadis worldwide quoting chapter and verse to justify their actions. Where are the Jewish and Christian terrorists quoting their Scriptures while cutting throats? Where are people killing in the name of HaShem, or shouting “Jesus akbar” and blowing themselves up?
Wolff Bachner: You have been rather outspoken about the failings of many of America’s political leaders in their dealings with Islamic tyrants in the Middle East, and what some describe as their willful ignorance of the threat of Islamic supremacy. You have not been shy about criticizing President Obama. You have said that Obama is appeasing Islamic extremists, empowering the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt, and throwing Israel under the bus. Are you of the opinion that there are powerful political figures who are working actively to empower Islam and Sharia in America? Are we being betrayed, or are we being sacrificed on the multi-cultural altar of political correctness? How much damage do you think Obama has done to America, and the free world, with his policy of embracing Islamists, and pressuring long standing American allies? Pamela Geller: I don’t see this as an either/or. We are being betrayed by those who are sacrificing our national security to political correctness. Obama has done incalculable damage. Wolff Bachner: You have expressed great concern about CAIR, The Islamic Society Of North America, The Muslim Students Association, The Islamic Supreme Council Of North America, and other organizations that are very vocal supporters of Islam in America. You have singled out CAIR as one of the most subversive organizations in our country, and you have expressed outrage at the Muslim Student Associations campaign of Jew hate, and their constant assault on Israel’s right to exist as the Nation of the Jewish people. Why is The Muslim Student Association able to attract so many young, non-Muslim Americans to its incessant message of hatred for Israel? Do you feel these groups have an actual plan in place to undermine the Constitution of the United States, and eventually install Sharia in America?
Pamela Geller: They lie to non-Muslim students and give them false accounts of trumped-up Israeli atrocities. That’s how they turn their heads. And yes, they have a plan to undermine the Constitution — the Muslim Brotherhood itself, according to a captured internal document, said that its work in America was “a kind of grand jihad” aimed at “eliminating and destroying Western civilization from within, and sabotaging its miserable house.”
Wolff Bachner: Why do so many of our leaders, and our elected officials tolerate, and even work with, subversive organizations that wish to destroy our way of life?
Pamela Geller: Our leaders are so cowed by Muslim Brotherhood groups’ charging that any and all of their opponents are all racists and bigots that they give the Brotherhood groups whatever they want.
Wolff Bachner: The conflict between Islam and the Jewish people has been going on for 1400 years, ever since the Jews of Medina rejected Muhammad and refused to consider him as the Messiah. The Qur’an has many verses that express hatred of the Jewish people, yet we are led to believe that the entire situation in the Middle East could be resolved if Israel would just give more land to the Palestinians. Is the dispute between Israel and the Arab world really just about land, or is it because the Islamic world will never tolerate a free, independent Jewish nation in their midst?
Pamela Geller: Islamic law forbids non-Muslims to hold authority over Muslims on land that belongs (they believe) to the Muslims. Thus they will never, ever accept a Jewish state in the Middle East.
Obama has demanded Israel return to indefensible “Auschwitz” borders
Wolff Bachner: When he was campaigning for the White House in 2008, Obama said he was a strong supporter of Israel and that Jerusalem was the undivided capital of Israel. Since he became President, Obama has demanded Israel return to what her leaders call indefensible “Auschwitz” borders, as the basis for negotiations between Israel and Palestinian leaders. He still hasn’t moved the US Embassy to Jerusalem from Tel Aviv, and members of his administration have publicly declined to acknowledge Jerusalem as Israel’s capital. On Tuesday, the relationship between Israel and The United States reached a new low. President Obama refused to meet with Prime Minister Netanyahu when the Israeli leader visits the U.S. at the end of September. Are the American people being subtly prepared for the abandonment of Israel by the Obama Administration? If Obama is re-elected, how bad will things get for Israel? Can you conceive of Obama voting in favor of The United Nations Security Council unilaterally creating a Palestinian state, with East Jerusalem as its capital, if he gets a second term?
Pamela Geller: Obama is hardly being subtle about abandoning Israel — anyone who can’t see that is willfully blind to an astonishing degree. If Obama is reelected, I can see Obama betraying Israel openly in all the ways you suggest and more.
Why are so many people unwilling to acknowledge the elephant in the room, despite mountains of evidence?
Wolff Bachner: In the Middle East, and other countries that have Muslim majorities, non-Muslims are often brutally oppressed. A Christian pastor was finally released after being held on death row in Iran since 2009, for refusing to convert to Islam. Last month, we saw an 11 year old girl with Downs Syndrome imprisoned, and charged with blasphemy in Pakistan. In Egypt, 10 million Coptic Christians are living in fear for their lives, and in Nigeria, Boko Haram has openly said that they will not stop killing Christians until there are no more Christians left in Nigeria and the country is an Islamic state. Yet, if you speak out about any of these horrible examples of oppression, and terror, you are slandered and called Islamophobic. Why are so many people unwilling to acknowledge the elephant in the room, despite mountains of evidence the lives of non-Muslims are in jeopardy in many parts of the Muslim world? Is it fear, abject dishonesty, or total ignorance that allows so many Americans to have such an unrealistic picture of Islam?
Pamela Geller: Here again, the media is lying to them. So the media is dishonest, and their audiences are ignorant.
Wolff Bachner: We hear people talk all the time about moderate Muslims, and how they should not be lumped together, and discriminated against, because of the crimes of a few crazy terrorists who are misrepresenting Islam. But it isn’t the suicide bombers, and a handful of lunatics, who are speaking the loudest in favor of Islamic supremacy, and the destruction of non-Muslims societies. It is the Grand Mufti of Saudi Arabia, the highest authority in all of Islam, who is saying that all the churches in the Arabian Peninsula must be destroyed. It is the leader of the Muslim Brotherhood, the Islamic group that now rules Egypt, who is calling for “a rightly guided caliphate and finally mastership of the world.” It is one ranking Islamic cleric after the other, including Ayatollah Khamenei, the leader of Iran, calling for the destruction of Israel, and the total genocide of the Jewish people. These are not fringe characters or mad men in caves, like Bin Ladin and Mullah Omar. These are leaders of the Islamic world, and according to the doctrine set down in the Holy Qur’an, they speak with authority over every Muslim on earth. We are told that it is only a tiny fraction of Muslims who support these insane ambitions. Here in America, when was the last time 500,000 or 50,000 or 5,000, or even 500 Muslims, marched against Jihad, in support of gay rights, in support of women’s rights, or in support of Israel’s right to exist? Is it really unfair to say that silence in the face of tyranny is acceptance of tyranny?
Pamela Geller: 11 years after 9/11, and there is still no large-scale movement of Muslims against Islamic supremacism and jihad. That is telling.
Europe has surrendered to islamofascism
Wolff Bachner: Is there any hope left for a free Europe, that respects equal rights for all human beings, no matter their race, religion, gender, or sexual preference? Has Europe surrendered its soul to a multi-cultural hell, and allowed the age of enlightenment to stumble backwards into a new dark age or can it return to a happier day, when no-go zones didn’t exist, and cars didn’t burn in French cities, night after night?
Pamela Geller: Yes, Europe is over. Europe has surrendered.